Yuppie Gloaters?
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From curbed:
[quote]When was the last time a neighborhood's residents campaigned to save a group of smokestacks from demolition? In Long Island City, the answer is now. The four smokestacks on top of the Schwartz Chemical Plant (née, Pennsylvania Railroad Power House) have loomed large in LIC since 1909, but now they will be torn down to make way for the building's obligatory condo conversion. Developer Cheskel Schwimmer says he tried to incorporate the stacks into the new design, but the city didn't approve the plan. Blogger GrubbyKid notes that the most disheartening part of the smokestacks' demise is the "yuppie gloating going on" in a discussion thread on the matter on the QueensWest (née, Long Island City) website. A little morning class war, anyone?[/quote]
And from the words of another "blog" by grubbykid..
[quote]Besides being highly illiterate, using the worst commenting software known to man, and being generally assy, they are dead wrong about the building not being built by McKim Mead & White. Apparently my quick analysis of the development of the property wasn't far off. The developer, Cheskel Schwimmer - vice president of Brooklyn-based CGS Builders, has pegged the cost to be around $100 million. I estimated around $60-70 million and the profit to be not substantial - but I could be wrong - they are using much more of the building then I assumed (four times more).[/quote]
Until the grubster can come up the plans that prove it was done by MMW I am still not convinced.
Jake
[quote]When was the last time a neighborhood's residents campaigned to save a group of smokestacks from demolition? In Long Island City, the answer is now. The four smokestacks on top of the Schwartz Chemical Plant (née, Pennsylvania Railroad Power House) have loomed large in LIC since 1909, but now they will be torn down to make way for the building's obligatory condo conversion. Developer Cheskel Schwimmer says he tried to incorporate the stacks into the new design, but the city didn't approve the plan. Blogger GrubbyKid notes that the most disheartening part of the smokestacks' demise is the "yuppie gloating going on" in a discussion thread on the matter on the QueensWest (née, Long Island City) website. A little morning class war, anyone?[/quote]
And from the words of another "blog" by grubbykid..
[quote]Besides being highly illiterate, using the worst commenting software known to man, and being generally assy, they are dead wrong about the building not being built by McKim Mead & White. Apparently my quick analysis of the development of the property wasn't far off. The developer, Cheskel Schwimmer - vice president of Brooklyn-based CGS Builders, has pegged the cost to be around $100 million. I estimated around $60-70 million and the profit to be not substantial - but I could be wrong - they are using much more of the building then I assumed (four times more).[/quote]
Until the grubster can come up the plans that prove it was done by MMW I am still not convinced.
Jake
I just posted this comment to his blurb:
I find it to be quite interesting that there are numerous period accounts identifying MMW as architects of penn station and discussing the LIC plant, but not associating MMW with the plant as well. I have yet to find any period source that identifies MMW as architects of the plant. What is the evidence on which you base your smug and steadfast conclusion?
And unlike you, I can rebut your assertions definitively and point to unquestionable evidence -- whether the stacks are staying is not inconclusive. Take a look at them, they're over 1/4 down.
Instead of engaging in the cyberspace equivalent of talking behind people's back, why don't you state your opinion of the queenswest.com board users on that board so that they may debate your misperceptions of reality and chicken-s**t name calling.
I find it to be quite interesting that there are numerous period accounts identifying MMW as architects of penn station and discussing the LIC plant, but not associating MMW with the plant as well. I have yet to find any period source that identifies MMW as architects of the plant. What is the evidence on which you base your smug and steadfast conclusion?
And unlike you, I can rebut your assertions definitively and point to unquestionable evidence -- whether the stacks are staying is not inconclusive. Take a look at them, they're over 1/4 down.
Instead of engaging in the cyberspace equivalent of talking behind people's back, why don't you state your opinion of the queenswest.com board users on that board so that they may debate your misperceptions of reality and chicken-s**t name calling.
Way to go. You tell 'em csk.
It never ceases to amaze me, why people talk/write before they research, and sometimes even think. People make mistakes, state incomplete or faulty information & the like; but, c'mon.
I have a saying that I occassionally use (and yup, I thought of it all by myself): If what you're about to do or say, feels or sounds wrong; it probably is......If what you're about to do or say, feels or seems right; it might not be.......In other words; let common sense and rational thinking run interference between your brain and your mouth.
It never ceases to amaze me, why people talk/write before they research, and sometimes even think. People make mistakes, state incomplete or faulty information & the like; but, c'mon.
I have a saying that I occassionally use (and yup, I thought of it all by myself): If what you're about to do or say, feels or sounds wrong; it probably is......If what you're about to do or say, feels or seems right; it might not be.......In other words; let common sense and rational thinking run interference between your brain and your mouth.
